They both had valid points but Ryan Lee in particular made some sweeping statements. Most WSO’s are garbage, Most WSO’s don’t work etc.
In the past I have done a fair bit of WSO bashing myself and I do think there are fundamental flaws in the system and that the quality should be controlled a little better.
However WSO’s do have a place in the IM market.And they are not all ripoff’s or crap products.
When I came into the business 9 years ago $37 or $47 was pretty much the entry level price for a lot of products. My first ever purchases were $77 for access to a forum and $97 on some site building software. That level of pricing excluded many people from entering into IM.(I know some people who think thats not a bad thing)
It’s all well and good saying that all WSO’s are crap and having a link to you $495 coaching course at the bottom of the post like Ryan did but many people can’t afford that. Even if they did the coaching he is offering might not be suitable for them at this stage of their online career. If they can’t build a blog, do research or build empathy then they’ll fail no matter how good the methods taught are..
How can you learn the basics without spending a fortune? By buying WSO’s or joining Forums when’re you’ll be able to learn from other peoples experiences.
The fact of the matter is that Most WSO’s aren’t crap, there is some great software that was initially launched as WSO’s in order to get feedback and find what improvements people would like.
There are solid money making methods released as WSO’s everyday that work… Everyday you can learn how to build lists, drive traffic and write articles that convert for less that $10 tell me that not a good thing!
But you need to put the work it.
Too many buyers purchase WSO’s with the attitude that if I don’t like the method I’ll refund it.
Whatever happened to Personal responsibility?
Learn to spot good WSO’s from bad WSO’s If you aren’t sure what the product is don’t buy it. Check the history of the vendor, check their posts out do they add value to the forum or just sell stuff? Have a look at their previous products … are they launching their 4th bit of software in 6 weeks.. if so that should set alarm bells ringing.
Research before you buy!
I got a refund request today that said “this isn’t for me” when I asked why he bought it the answer was “I was curious!”
I ask again whatever happened to personal responsibility?
If I buy a product and I don’t like the method I don’t immediately ask for a refund, I bought it based on what I perceived the product to be , if the sales page was accurate but I decided that the methods don’t suit my style of marketing thats down to me.
If you look for the refund policy on a product before you buy then you probably shouldn’t buy it. WSO’s and IM products aren’t “Try Before You Buy” products. If you are looking for a magic button you will be disappointed so don’t buy products that sound too good to be true.
Take every screenshot of earnings with a pinch of salt.. they can be faked and some will be.
If you want to learn to do something specific then look for case studies, also look for on going training. When we launched No BS Listbuilding last week (WSO of The Day April 27th.. Hey, if it’s good enough for Ryan Lee to promote his products in his post I am happy to learn from him 🙂 )we deliberately added a Facebook group so we can continue to help the buyers over the long term.
How can The WSO system be Improved?
What everyone seemed to overlook is that the purchase of a product is a 2 sided affair and that both sides of the transaction have to take a certain level of responsibility. The following ideas just seem like commonsense to me, I can’t see them being implemented as the Warrior Forum is a business.
I believe that fundamentally the whole system of WSO’s is pretty sound but there can be simple changes made that will make it better for both vendors and buyers.
For example, every product should have a proper help desk and not just an email address, support should be the vendors number 1 priority.
When vendor’s publish their first WSO that product should be thoroughly reviewed and checked including any income claims to ensure it’s of a good quality, suggestions should be made for improvements if necessary.
There should be a minimum post count before you can post a WSO
Quality checking should be done on a daily basis to 20% of all products.
No comments allowed in threads from newly registered accounts or accounts with duplicate IP addresses
All reviews posted should be accompanied by some sort of proof of purchase.
A central registry should be established where vendors can list refunders, serial refunders should then be blocked from purchasing.
Ok thats it from me .. now over to you. I want your views and your ideas.